Nice car!!! , Is that in the game or a mod?

Well worth it quite solid ai, good fun on LAN, racing public isnt as good as LFS, but overall quite good value for any fan of driving sims.

Quote from Alric :

From reading Scawen's posts I very much doubt he would release a patch if unfinished just because it's the 2nd to last friday of the year. Sorry to sound negative but the lack of content or things for us to try in a progress report with little information from the devs then negativity becomes inevitable.

My name is Neo Mr Anderson

Really are we this bewildered by what is right and what is wrong.
Cant believe this news, well I can but, I just didn't think "they" would be so
bloody thick with arrogance to presume this will not cause even more revolt.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new ... -to-prevent-disorder.html

Maybe this story is a test of public reaction, I really dont know.

Quote from rich uk :

Just watched Eagle Vs Shark. Fantastic film reminded me a lot of "The science of sleep" awkward funny, intelligent and generally a nice film to watch. (Has Jermaine from Flight of the Concordes too)

Yep quite an odd one, but worthwhile

The World Is Yours - Cinnamon Chasers (heavy royksopp influence?)

BUY BUY BUY
http://www.flickr.com/photos/3 ... in/set-72157619206330728/

Try renaming LFS.exe as it might have a profile attached to it.

Quote from dekojester :

.............
When it comes out, the new stuff will be welcome, and surely will affect how I run NDR's leagues in some yet to be seen way.

Aye then everyone will be scrambling to adjust to new physics etc / I find this period of stability (regarding LFS updates) most rewarding, Ive learnt to master XRT finally, which had its own slight CoG changes a while back (during balancing of TBO for those who dont remember)

People forget that until this time there was constant Changes to the model of physics used in LFS and somthing always felt different. I say to those who have moaned is "you dont know what you got, till you lose it"

@ dennis, Doctor Al says "your condition is incurable and will only get worse when the update comes"


Regards

Quote from Foilpact :

The tyre model atm is poor as no car would ruin the tyres in 3-5 laps, Especially a standard 100-200bhp car..

The Tyres are far from ruined in 3-5 laps in XFG XRG on any track in LFS.
Again the same is said for LX4 + TBO With the right set and driving style again these can be held at a fairly fast pace for the duration of their life.

Quote from RX-7 :

Alright i'm lost...
I've gone into my settings and opened the ports with TCP and UDP and also 29339 or something as tcp.
But i'm still getting the Master server connection problem so ??
Heres my setup, and ping and trace. i did the ping and trace while the dedi was NOT running.. I didn't know if you were supposed to or not ?

// optional: local specified ip address
/ip=127.0.0.1 ***** this seems to be your issue?

Thanks for clarifying the terms. But I do wish you would go into detail
Knowledge shared is knowledge gained, I have only my driving experience and a very loose grasp of reality. (If I spend to much time reading here)

This Canned effect you discussed regarding hopping of the tyres.
Obviously any hopping is a sign of traction issue or other maybe drive train issues, or suspension / rigidity and not ruling out driver error also.
So the canned effect you say applied real world fixes in certain conditions.
I have to ask which conditions and did a replicated physical model of the real world fix work in each scenario,for the non-realistic behaviour?
Sorry to be a pain, Just that these are quite interesting topic(s)

Quote from Bawbag :

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Nowadays, ugh, LFS has stuttered to a halt, I think MoE is in it's 3rd season on this patch, hell I remember at the start of last season they left 1 slot open for Rockingham..HAH!

LFS was fantastic, LFS had lots going for it, in the amount of time we've waited for a scummy VW I would have expected S3 to be released, or at least in the works.

It could be argued that is the case, LFS has had its time and place (oh ye of little faith) , It can also be argued that its the community at fault partially for its attitude.
We will see when the patch comes, really don't want another revolving discussion but for now I will just say this.
They should know the score by now? But like any normal* person there are other fruit to try and people will leave the restaurant to find a classier joint If the menu is getting boring, Even if the food is just as delicious as it was when you first found it.

Still feel sorry for you mercury guys, great team, great passion on track.
Where is teh nub, man i miss teaching Jonsey how to drive.

Quote from robt :

Nothing! you just needed to be there at the time

And those guys from that time need to get back on track in TBO and get their ass kicked on R4R "Thursdays fortnightly for organised racing"

Nice to see you around fordie

I just wish I could find the posts covering this device.
Sorry about that link in my post, fixed now. But I am not sure how accurate the data is compared to the incarnation we have today.
I thought this was relevant material for the discussion regarding the proposed methods of combating the possible extremities that the current model delivers.
For the rumour mill it was around this time that rig of rods and chassis flex was picked up in the community also.

Anyway my dear Dr Watson's, I put the pipe down for now as I have one hell of a chesty cough, that is until something of interest pipes up.

Quote from JeffR :

Sorry for the late response, I rarely pay much attention to LFS forums anymore. My point wasn't to change the new physics model, but to add a sanity check for unrealistic behavior along any axis of rotation in the model. I wasn't proposing how the model should deal with the unrealistc behavior, just to have the data available as feedback.

The other side of this is how the model translates the simulated forces via Force feedback within the game, or is this your point?

Sorry to nag about reply just seemed a little odd you post two related subject matters that could (and now have) been condensed into a nice package.
The question(s) I have to ask is that.
A> Are you suggesting that applying a fixed gyroscopic force on the wheel as a means of measuring accuracy of the model currently in place?

Or

B> Suggesting this effect / measurement value is already in place and provides the Canned effect = ie translated via FF?

For myself the feedback LFS provides always tells the story of how the game is progressing. This a direct result of the Entire physics model not just tyres.
My point here


Focusing on just the tyres is important (for Scawen & this topic) But its the whole package that counts and this is the general vibe i get these days.
But Im distracting from the point you maybe trying to make Jeff.

So was it a or b or non of the above

@BBT

Scawen did mention building his own physical tyre measurement device somewhere in the jungle of a thread he made regarding VW & Tyres, but for life of me I cannot find it.

Last edited by Gener_AL (UK), Sat, 4 Dec 2010 10:18. Reason : Fixed link *sorry

Quote from CodieMorgan :

Hey Jeff - Why did you have to create 2 related threads about identical topics within 30 minutes of each other?

and not reply in either

and Last night @ R4R TBO Server/ had to end server to get back online

Quote from JeffR :

It's been 2 years since the tire physics model has been getting worked on. For most players the current model is good enough, so why not just move on with the other features announced 2 years ago and save the new tire physics for S3?

Its a good question and I do think this will have been discussed by the devs.
Or maybe it simply evolves as things need work like it has, with no fixed targets for what should be included in S2.

My example Jeff is S1 as it currently stands.
When S1 was "Final" it was a very different version to what it is now.
Do you not see that S2 will be the same, when S3 is released and upgraded via whatever course of development Scawen Eric & Victor take?

Quote from ChristijaNL :

It still says we are online at the crashed host?

I can see the host, but when i try to connect it says: username allrdy online.

still same here

Server down just 5 min before qual / trying to restore service

Happy Birthday Batman

Quote from patrese :

Is there a chatlog for http://www.lfsworld.net/irc/ ?
Apparenlty there was a convo last night regarding the release of this long awaited patch with one of the developers.
He must have been either taking the piss or there is nothing to look forward to this christmas....more like next.
I see a shitstorm brewing.

Depends, Using LFSworld I am not entirley sure / Using any IRC client - they usually options for logging/ I know xchat stores in the roaming users profile under apps name.

Regarding Conversations in there. Unless its a dev your speaking to then i wouldn't believe anything.

White Lies - Death (mistabishi remix)

all ok here thanks for prompt response vic.